Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

[Gabriel]

As in, one last chance to plead our cases?

[Lex]

Okay I have to ask you not to do that. We've never had a situation like this before in 19 seasons of hosting, but for the first time a juror is asking a finalists to redo answers that he knows the other jurors weren't happy with.

I can't allow that I'm sorry Gabe...

I don't remember asking him to redo them, I just said his answers to certain questions were awful.

[Jeff Probst]

Hmph.

Well, will we be able to give at least a final words sort of thing after the questioning is over?

Yes.

[Linda]

also Lex, are you still open to Brawl after the game?

[Lex]

also Lex, are you still open to Brawl after the game?

Yes.

[Lex]

Is Lindsey still online?

[Linda]

also Lex, are you still open to Brawl after the game?

Yes.

[Sean]

i want in too Linda.


but really sleeping now :P

[Holly Hoffman]

Okay I have to ask you not to do that. We've never had a situation like this before in 19 seasons of hosting, but for the first time a juror is asking a finalists to redo answers that he knows the other jurors weren't happy with.

I can't allow that I'm sorry Gabe...

I don't remember asking him to redo them, I just said his answers to certain questions were awful.

You used the word "redeem" in relation to his previous answers. That can easily be interpreted as a request to re-do them.

[Linda]

Is Lindsey still online?

I think she is, but is trying to type up a lot of response on a slow computer , and Jeff said the "online" thing time times out after 10 minutes

[Linda]

i want in too Linda.


but really sleeping now :P

Me, you, Lex, Gina. This sounds epic

[Lex]

Okay I have to ask you not to do that. We've never had a situation like this before in 19 seasons of hosting, but for the first time a juror is asking a finalists to redo answers that he knows the other jurors weren't happy with.

I can't allow that I'm sorry Gabe...

I don't remember asking him to redo them, I just said his answers to certain questions were awful.

You used the word "redeem" in relation to his previous answers. That can easily be interpreted as a request to re-do them.

I meant this as in "your answers to my questions and Gina's have to make up for how some of your questions beforehand were not good".

[Lindsey]

Lindsey

I definitely like you as a person, but I have to say that the fact you were so quick to order Gina to idol me out in the Sean vote was surprising, to say the least... It definitely hurt me that we had such long conversations before that, and long conversations about strategy, that you would have idol'd me out without a second thought, and this is all even though we had talked with each other 1:1 (at least, it was from my side) about the Sean vote. I didn't mention how I felt, but all I ever was to you was genuine and completely honest (except for the F6 vote where I fibbed about the Gabe vote, which didn't even matter anyway in the end) although I know I'm partly to blame for trusting you after you backstabbed Linda.
I don't care about me getting voted out and I'm not bitter at all about it, but after Sean's vote I felt really manipulated whether or not it was your intention. However, it didn't surprise me when you said you'd probably vote me and I'm glad you were honest with me about that .

Also, I don't think your argument "I had to fight harder to get to the F3" is very valid. You were never in trouble at nuMariche since the original Tamanaco 6 had planned to throw challenges to vote off the minority from the start. :/ and the reason you had to fight harder to get to the end was because Gabe put himself in a better position to get to the end, at least IMO.

I didn't want to vote for you because I saw you as a villain with one-dimensional gameplay (social game) and your answers were also one-dimensional, at least to me. With that being said, here's my question(s) for you:

What was your game plan/strategy coming into this game, and how did you execute/modify/adapt that strategy? Honestly speaking for me I have the impression your gameplay was one-dimensional (not showing much adaptability other than the swap), lucky in the fact that you dodged so many votes and, well... heinous because of what you did to Linda and your manipulation of me. I really like you as a person but I absolutely detest your gameplay. However I am STILL open to voting for you if you give me a satisfactory answer to this question.

Also, I'd like to know how you convinced Gabe to vote for me at F5, what was your argument? And tell me why you wanted to vote me off first instead of Gina, it's not like I was a challenge threat (and I was also going to be busy the entire week) Q.Q .

I'm not sorry for manipulating you because... I've already explained this in other answers, but my conversations with people were genuine and I did NOT play based on how much I liked people. If I did, I would have had a lot more trouble voting you out. I loved talking to you but so did everyone else and manipulating you on the way to voting you out isn't a testament towards how I feel about you.

I disagree. I believe I had to fight harder. Gabe wasn't the one that got put in the minority by a tribe swap. Even though old Tamanaco had a plan to throw challenges to keep a majority of us in the game, what if that fell through? It was a realistic possibility, ESPECIALLY with that scary f13 immunity. People who I considered my closest allies - Pat and Gina - had been with other people on their tribe longer than they had been with me so I had to fight especially hard to get into their good graces. Then when we merged, Gabe and Pat could reunite with their old allies Vecepia and Sean - people whom I had never met and had a chance to be on a tribe with for reasons outside of my control. I could reunite with yourself, Linda and Kim J but Kim J was the first person voted out and you and Linda ended up with Sean and Vecepia. Obviously part of that is my fault due to my f11 lies but I fought extremely hard to get back into people's good graces or get into them in the first place. It was a subtle fight. And I believe that my game is more impressive than Gabe because while he called the shots for the early merge, I called them later in the game - I worked my way up while he fell down a little.

My gameplay being one-dimensional is not a good argument at ALL. I think if anything I had the most three dimensional (physical, strategic, social) gameplay of any of the final three. It wasn't Linda or Gabe that won 3 individual immunity challenges - even if one was because Gabe screwed up, I still counted pretty freaking high and the other two challenges I won were two of the hardest IMO. I haven't stressed my physical game as much because I didn't think the jury would place much importance on it, but it was there. My social game is self-explanatory. And I really do believe I'm being downplayed as a strategist here. I did little things like change the vote to you instead of Gina first at f5 and throw in the stray at f12 on top of the fact that I seriously believe I was the most powerful person in the game from final 8 onwards - every round from Sarah onwards the round played out exactly how I wanted and expected it to. That doesn't happen because of social game, that happens because of strategy. I was more strategic than Linda, more social than Gabe and more physical and well-rounded than both.

My strategy in the game was what I executed - a balance of strategy, social and physical. But my main strategy had always been to make people like me and trust me as that is far and away the most sure fire way to avoid being eliminated. I don't think dodging votes was lucky because I made the connections to ensure that a lot of people were not willing to write my name down. I also had an open attitude towards making moves and never shot something down right away because I know people like it when other people listen to what they have to say. I was adaptable because when I was vulnerable in the early merge, I approached people and built up bonds to ensure that I wouldn't be voted out. I don't think my manipulation was that heinous? I took the lying to Linda a bit far but really, as you said, your trust in me was misguided. You can attribute that to me being open to everyone despite what they may have done to me in the past (other than maybe Sarah after the Vecepia vote), making it easy for you to put trust in me again even AFTER I heinously screwed over you and Linda. I think you should give me some props for the fact that I was able to manipulate you effectively even AFTER you should have known better. Screw me once, shame on you; screw me twice, shame on me.

My argument to Gabe also entailed some of the reasons that I voted you as well:
1. In an endurance challenge, skill in past challenges doesn't matter.
2. You were a bigger jury threat than Gina IMO.

My own argument was that I needed a back-up. If I voted out Gina then you won final immunity, I would have likely been voted out. That's why i wanted to keep Gina instead of you, as I saw her as more likely to vote with me if she won final immunity than you would be.

[Jeff Probst]

Okay, I understand if that wasn't your intention Lex, and we're just trying to remain as fair as possible here to the other jurors and the final 3. Just being cautious that there's no foul play in voting persuasion going on here. :)

[Lex]

Thanks Lindsey. One last thing, did you know I was on a flight and would miss immunity/tribal the night I got voted out? Anybody can answer this if they are certain they know the answer.

[Lindsey]

Essentially Lindsey went to Gabe 10 minutes before tribal, told him to vote you...

If this is true Lindsey then that was seriously an underhanded move. It's like kicking someone in the balls in a street brawl, you can do it but it's very unethical... :/

It was true. And it was underhanded. Unethical? No. Ethics and Survivor don't really mesh well IMO. I thought this out in advance and realized my best move was to vote you out at final 5 before I informed Gabe of it. I informed him only right beforehand because I didn't want Linda to know so that if it came down to it and Gina won final immunity, I could get her to vote Linda after Linda voted for her at F5.

[Gabriel]

Is it possible to respond to final 3's answers and rebuttal?

[Gina]

Thanks Lindsey. One last thing, did you know I was on a flight and would miss immunity/tribal the night I got voted out? Anybody can answer this if they are certain they know the answer.

[Lex]

Essentially Lindsey went to Gabe 10 minutes before tribal, told him to vote you...

If this is true Lindsey then that was seriously an underhanded move. It's like kicking someone in the balls in a street brawl, you can do it but it's very unethical... :/

It was true. And it was underhanded. Unethical? No. Ethics and Survivor don't really mesh well IMO. I thought this out in advance and realized my best move was to vote you out at final 5 before I informed Gabe of it. I informed him only right beforehand because I didn't want Linda to know so that if it came down to it and Gina won final immunity, I could get her to vote Linda after Linda voted for her at F5.

Alright I'm satisfied with this, Gina it's your turn.

[Lindsey]

Thanks Lindsey. One last thing, did you know I was on a flight and would miss immunity/tribal the night I got voted out? Anybody can answer this if they are certain they know the answer.

This is probably going to sound like bullshit but I don't remember. I want to say yes, though. But to me, it's redundant because whether you were there or not, my voting decision would have remained unaffected.