Winner Discussion Thread

[Brenda Lowe]

Will we get to see everyone's applications? Or at least hear how everyones applications matched up to the game they played, from the hosts' perspectives? I'd be seriously interested in hearing that.

Yes.

There is two big areas of the board - hosts & lurkers - that will be unlocked to view after the wrap-up.

[Kim J]

Woah woah woah, GUYS!

This game is still anonymous. We'll have a reunion and a cast reveal and all that on finale night. And at that point you can all find out who was behind the characters and all the rest of it.

But for now please, no RL commentary, stick to the game talk.

Sorry Brenda PX

I left out my name because I was scared that it would be against the rules

[Kim J]

I'm going to apologize if I ever got personal about the vote for winner. I really shouldn't care as much as I did.

Regardless, Gabe didn't talk to half of this jury. That's the only thing I'm walking in with at FTC, and that's really enough to NOT vote for Gabe. Sorry guys, but it is kind of pathetic to expect to win this game and not talk to half of the people in the game.

"Manipulation" is a major factor in survivor. I never saw her manipulating me, but even if she did, I wouldn't mind. I'd actually applaud it if Lindsey was a hardcore manipulator and I didn't notice. I saw Lindsey as a social and physical competitor. While she wasn't the best player in this game, she's the best player in this final 3 socially (from my point of view).

Gabe could've knocked everyone's socks of strategically. I don't see how, but Gabe could be a fine player in this game. The fact that Patty and Lex both defended him an astounding amount does mean SOMETHING to me. However, even if I take what you both say 100% to my heart, it's just inexcusable to ignore the majority of this jury. That's not how you play survivor.

Again, sorry if I got personal. I don't care as much now as I did last night. I slept on it, and I'm still confident that Lindsey deserves to win.

[Gina]

Lindsey was the best manipulator in this game. The fact that some of the people on this jury don't even know how hard they got played by her is a testament to her skill.

[Kim J]

Lindsey was the best manipulator in this game. The fact that some of the people on this jury don't even know how hard they got played by her is a testament to her skill.

Exactly. When Lex said that, it more then sealed my vote.

[Clarence]

My views


Gabriel, from my view, didn't show up to most of the challenges, or tribal councils, and was never online to talk game throughout 90% of my time playing with him. That is a huge detractor in my mind. He never responded to most of my messages. And when he did he was always just weird. He should have been online more often, but because he wasn't he was never a target. I don't think that's good game play. I think that's a shitty way to make it to the end and win. He didn't want it bad enough. I don't think I wanted it bad enough either, so who's talking, but he literally must've missed more events than everyone combined. I can't be remembering it that wrong, but it felt like it to me.

Linda: Not sure what Linda did either. We never talked strategy. Ever. So she'll have to make me aware of what she did to get my vote. A huge detractor in my eyes is how confrontational and mean she was to the other tribe publicly, privately, etc. and in tribal councils she was just a bitch to everyone. Terrible jury management.

Lindsey: Lindsey was dead in the water at the merge. When we swapped, she told me everything, spilled the beans on every alliance she had and why, etc. I never saw her as strong. She was weak in my eyes for most of the game. She was always someone I would've wanted out but I myself was waiting til later in the game to start playing hard, I just never got the chance. If she controlled anyone, I'm impressed, but she never did anything impressive while I was still in the game. Lindsey voted with other people to get where she is. I never saw her take a leap of faith and make her own master plan to win it. The thing she has going for her is that she did have a ton of people/alliances behind my back. I thought she was going to be an easy boot near the end.

[Clarence]

I just wanna know what Clarence thinks.

lol <3 Just posted my teeny tiny thoughts above.

Feel free to sway me one way or the other. I wanted you to win.

[Clarence]

Not be an asshole, as I know I sucked at the game(like really sucked hard), but If I had actually played better and not sucked, the final 5 I wanted to be a part of after taking out the 'good players/threats' were these players: "I'd try to go to the end with Vecepia, Linda, Lindsey, Gabriel, then take out Lindsey and Linda."

So I thought the best two goats were going to be Vecepia and Gabriel....

And if not them Linda/Lindsey...

So at the merge I wanted these players to make it far, but only if I was with them. I wanted to do what Gina did. Gina got Rob C'd! Damn them.

[Lex]

Lindsey was the best manipulator in this game. The fact that some of the people on this jury don't even know how hard they got played by her is a testament to her skill.

The fact that Gabriel has fooled literally everybody on this jury except Pat into thinking he was a weak player should be proof enough that HE is the best manipulator in this game.

[Lex]

Not be an asshole, as I know I sucked at the game(like really sucked hard), but If I had actually played better and not sucked, the final 5 I wanted to be a part of after taking out the 'good players/threats' were these players: "I'd try to go to the end with Vecepia, Linda, Lindsey, Gabriel, then take out Lindsey and Linda."

So I thought the best two goats were going to be Vecepia and Gabriel....

And if not them Linda/Lindsey...

So at the merge I wanted these players to make it far, but only if I was with them. I wanted to do what Gina did. Gina got Rob C'd! Damn them.

I totally understand and tbh when I was still in the game I didn't think of Gabe as I do now, but after I got voted and out and had time to think about it it really astounds me just how well he played the entire game... I'm sure he will reveal it at FTC but I posted a link already about what he did (it was called the Andy Kaufman strategy)

When I was in the game I didn't expect Vecepia or Linda to garner many votes, if at all, if they made it to FTC (no offense V). I knew people would vote for Lindsey because they were friends with her but that was it. I underestimated Gabe the most though as he played everybody here so well nobody knows he played them except Pat because he made the majority of decisions with Pat.

Pat and I have both made strategical decisions with Lindsey and the fact that we are still lobbying so hard for Gabe's win and pointing out just how many decisions he made should show something about him. The only real argument I'm hearing against him (repeatedly) is he didn't talk to people on the jury, but he literally did everything else he could possibly do right, except arguably swapping Lindsey for me, but at the time I was voted out people thought I would sweep the vote because of Sean lol. Lindsey's gameplay was one dimensional and the only real thing he has going for him is he talked to people a lot (I still am arguing he only talked to Kim J. to get his jury vote at the end because he knew Kim J. was toast and didn't even bother to try and save him) and won immunities at the end, which I wasn't there for one of them and Gabe made the slightest error on the second, there were reasons he won those immunities <.<... besides Gabe played so well he didn't even need the immunities the entire game, I bet he could have (and he did) not shown up at any of the challenges and STILL gotten to where he is now.

I just wanna know what Clarence thinks.

lol <3 Just posted my teeny tiny thoughts above.

Feel free to sway me one way or the other. I wanted you to win.

That makes two of us. R.I.P. Gina

[Kim J]

Lindsey was the best manipulator in this game. The fact that some of the people on this jury don't even know how hard they got played by her is a testament to her skill.

The fact that Gabriel has fooled literally everybody on this jury except Pat into thinking he was a weak player should be proof enough that HE is the best manipulator in this game.

If it's half the jury that agrees, then it's fact, Lex. You just liked him cause he actually talked to you.

[Gina]

RIP me? I'm now confused

[Lex]

RIP me? I'm now confused

Habit, I'm a League player and they spam "RIP" a lot, and when I got voted out I went to confessionals and said "R.I.P. Lex" as the first line.

[Gina]

Speaking of games- are you in vegas for EVO by chance??

[Lex]

Speaking of games- are you in vegas for EVO by chance??

Nope, seminars. :( Didn't even know EVO was this weekend, I was never one for events like that (usually watched them livestream if they ever had anything that interested me). I might watch Melee though.

[Clarence]

So I shouldn't vote for Linda to randomly force a tie? ;D Assuming such a divide in voting between Gabe/Lindsey existed. Cause no one has convinced me that any of these people deserve to win yet.

Who is voting for who?

Kim J: Lindsey
Kim P: Lindsey
Sarah: Lindsey
Gina: Lindsey
Patricia: Gabe
Lex: Gabe
Sean: Gabe
Vecepia: Gabe

lol, so the one person who thinks the final 3 sucks is the swing vote. -.- Yay me. I just gotta get out of my own head and stop thinking of them as goats. They did all make the finals. I'm hoping one of them annihilates the other two at final tribal. That would help my decision.

[Gina]

Eek, looks that way.

[Kim J]

Yeah pretty much.

[Lex]

So I shouldn't vote for Linda to randomly force a tie? ;D Assuming such a divide in voting between Gabe/Lindsey existed. Cause no one has convinced me that any of these people deserve to win yet.
lol, so the one person who thinks the final 3 sucks is the swing vote. -.- Yay me. I just gotta get out of my own head and stop thinking of them as goats. They did all make the finals. I'm hoping one of them annihilates the other two at final tribal. That would help my decision.

You have the voting scheme down for the most part, but we haven't heard the F3's speeches and answers to our questions yet so some of the votes aren't locked in stone yet. My questions are pretty... complex and I hope they answer them in a detailed manner.

[Sarah]

So I shouldn't vote for Linda to randomly force a tie? ;D Assuming such a divide in voting between Gabe/Lindsey existed. Cause no one has convinced me that any of these people deserve to win yet.
lol, so the one person who thinks the final 3 sucks is the swing vote. -.- Yay me. I just gotta get out of my own head and stop thinking of them as goats. They did all make the finals. I'm hoping one of them annihilates the other two at final tribal. That would help my decision.

You have the voting scheme down for the most part, but we haven't heard the F3's speeches and answers to our questions yet so some of the votes aren't locked in stone yet. My questions are pretty... complex and I hope they answer them in a detailed manner.

douchebag.