Ep 14: Finale

Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby General » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:04:34 am

Yay for mysterious revelation!!
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Frank » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:13:34 am

How poetic would this be:

Lex finds out that it was Gabe who voted him out during his Jury questioning. Gets angry and votes for Lindsey, Lindsey wins by 1 vote.
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby General » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:04:49 am

So If Lyndsey and Gabe dont do the fallen comrades will Linda automatically win? xd
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Frank » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:39:28 am

General wrote:So If Lyndsey and Gabe dont do the fallen comrades will Linda automatically win? xd

That seems fair to me.
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Lurker_Caryn » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:47:01 am

General, On Monday's ID Reveal, you should come back and be super pissed off and start yelling at people.

Everyone will be so confused, icon_lol
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby General » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:50:36 am

Lurker_Caryn wrote:General, On Monday's ID Reveal, you should come back and be super pissed off and start yelling at people.

Everyone will be so confused, icon_lol


icon_lol icon_lol icon_lol That could be funny

Btw, Brenda. I saw you asking the jury if they had AIM. I have it too so I can join to final wrap chat :p
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Lurker_Becky » Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:28:20 am

Brenda is obnoxious on AIM. Make sure you block her right away.
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Frank » Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:06:35 am

Would just like to point out that Gabe made his fallen comrades and he mentions voting out lex. Incoming revelation. icon_excited
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Holly Hoffman » Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:21:05 am

Frank wrote:Would just like to point out that Gabe made his fallen comrades and he mentions voting out lex. Incoming revelation. icon_excited


Unless the grammar and spelling is wrong, then that would take priority and he may not see it.
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Lurker_Caryn » Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:22:33 am

Powu-Poskuio-No Shikotatina.

Fi A A So, sheeko, menenoso blaaa


WOOOOO!
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Brenda Lowe » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:51:24 am

Lurker_Becky wrote:Brenda is obnoxious on AIM. Make sure you block her right away.


This is true. Although we've never talked. I guess my reputation precedes me.

Frank wrote:Would just like to point out that Gabe made his fallen comrades and he mentions voting out lex. Incoming revelation. icon_excited


The Jurors can't see the FCs.
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Frank » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:29:51 am

Brenda Lowe wrote:
Lurker_Becky wrote:Brenda is obnoxious on AIM. Make sure you block her right away.


This is true. Although we've never talked. I guess my reputation precedes me.

Frank wrote:Would just like to point out that Gabe made his fallen comrades and he mentions voting out lex. Incoming revelation. icon_excited


The Jurors can't see the FCs.

Oh they can't see Camp Fire? Oh well. I guess its best that he doesn't realize it until FTC icon_lol



Also, since I'm new to this whole ORG thing, as evidenced by the fact I didn't know how idols worked here icon_lol , can someone explain to me the terms Lindsey used in her Fallen Comrades thread? Like CPN, CPM, OTTN, UTRP? Some I can guess but some I have no idea.
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Brenda Lowe » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:44:05 am

Oh you're opening a whole can of worms with that one. You might not want to know. I will give you a brief breakdown and while it sounds interesting at first, once you start looking out for it, it can actually ruin you're enjoyment of the show. :/ So tread carefully.

Altogether it's called "Edgic", i.e. editing logic. If you can imagine the editors of Survivor have a few principles they have to stick to, like, they want you to like the winner and be satisfied with their win. They want you to get more invested in some characters then others. They want to tell some kind of story per Season and not just have a string of random events. i.e. if Fairplay is to get a glorious come-uppance in Episode 8, they need to play up his villainy the weeks beforehand.

So in all of this, people started paying closer and closer attention to what exactly the editors choose to show, and what they choose to not show. How many confessionals does a player get? Are they generally positive or negative? Does any other player contribute to that first players story etc.

What she is using there is shorthand for the following styles and types;

INV = Invisible
UTR = Under the Radar
MOR = Middle of the Road
CP = Complex Personality
OTT = Over the Top

And then if you see at the end of each there might be a P, an N, a M, or nothing at all. That would be Positive, Negative, Mixed or neutral.

So someone could be a YUGE in your face villainess (let's say Abi-Maria) and she'd be OTTN, or someone could be a YUGE in your face ball of sunshine, and therefore be OTTP.

Ya follow?

The general idea is that you can call the winner of the Season way early (or at least start eliminating people). So ask yourself if you really wanna be able to do that before you look into it too much. If you're still interested, head to Survivor Sucks edgic section and go nuts. That site is full of spoilers though :/
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Frank » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:52:54 am

Oh yeah I know editing gives out winner every time, just didn't realize what the abbreviations meant. Unfortunately the season gets spoiled before hand most of the time anyway icon_no Trying really hard to avoid BvW spoilers atm, which seems easy cause I didn't see any. Been looking for details on s28 and I'm afraid I'll run into some BvW spoilers icon_chaos

I don't even remember last season I watched without knowing the winner or at least having a pretty good idea of the winner. Editing got dumber and dumber last few seasons too. I love Cochran but last seasons was The Cochran Show. icon_rolleyes
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Brenda Lowe » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:53:37 am

For example, Kim began one for you guys at the start of the Season. She didn't get far but here was her chart after Episode 1;

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I'm not sure what she's using the numbers here for. I've seen em used to show the degree of positivity or negativity - but there's a second use that escapes me.

What is interesting is her contenders for the win list down the bottom. Lindsey best chance, followed by Gabe icon_chaos And there's you, in fourth :P
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Frank » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:20:07 pm

Brenda Lowe wrote:For example, Kim began one for you guys at the start of the Season. She didn't get far but here was her chart after Episode 1;

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I'm not sure what she's using the numbers here for. I've seen em used to show the degree of positivity or negativity - but there's a second use that escapes me.

What is interesting is her contenders for the win list down the bottom. Lindsey best chance, followed by Gabe icon_chaos And there's you, in fourth :P

When was it last edited to put Lindsey and Gabe in front? If she guessed that weeks ago that would be pretty amazing icon_blink
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Frank » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:21:24 pm

Oh nvm , You said after episode 1. How the hell did she get that read on the opposite tribe then lol...
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Brenda Lowe » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:57:04 pm

Oh lol, sorry. That is not Mama or L'il, this is just plain Kim. icon_laughing

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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Brenda Lowe » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:59:22 pm

But yes, she made that call after one episode. But to me that is weird. Because on the show it's the players edited as complex but also positive that are the most likely winners. The editors specifically want you to think, "hmm, I like her, she is positive, and she seems to be thinking too". But here it is not edited or crafted. Here you see everything. ykwim?

Like, I see people doing "edgic" for Big Brother - and that to me is pointless, the show is live!
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Re: Ep 14: Finale

Postby Holly Hoffman » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:33:54 pm

I think edgic on a whole is pointless because you see too many people with vastly different ratings. It's up to so much interpretation that there is no factual stability to the process at all.
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