Winner Discussion Thread

[Patricia]

Is anyone here actually female?

I really doubt it.

Maybe Clarence.

[Kim J]

This all being said, The best thing we can do is just provide clear arguments and valid points as to why Gabe deserves to win.

[Lex]

Has anyone written their speech yet?

Yes but I may edit mine.
@Sarah - I don't mind if you swear if that's what you were getting at, I just try to avoid swearing myself I'm in the habit and trying to cut it

[Vecepia]

Lol its hard to imagine Clarence as a girl. Gave certainly acted feminine at some points too.

[Lex]

Is anyone here actually female?

I really doubt it.

Maybe Clarence.

Ahahahahaha 10/10

Mia/Holly might be female

[Patricia]

This all being said, The best thing we can do is just provide clear arguments and valid points as to why Gabe deserves to win.

Yeah. And I've also said that as much as I want Gabe to win, and currently think he deserves it, I've also said that I'll wait until FTC to really decide.

[Gina]

I spent more time in the game with Gabe than anyone else on this jury and I feel like I know less about him than I know about people I knew for a quarter of the time, like Kim P or Clarence. To me, that speaks volumes. Gabe was a milquetoast player in this game and I'm shocked that this isn't going to be a blowout in Lindsey's favor.

Look at Lindsey's record- she won critical immunity challenges- when she needed them for her own survival (this last challenge) or to prevent her boot target from winning them (Sean boot). She had an incredible social game and was routinely the most pleasant and positive person to interact with. Every power play in the endgame was instigated by her. Who cares if she was on the wrong side of the numbers for ONE boot (Kim P) in the early merge. Look at how she developed. She ran that endgame like a well-oiled machine. It's a shame that other late-gamers like Lex can't see it. If you think Gabe of all people was the one instigating taking out power players like Sean or Lex or even Patty, you're horribly misinformed.

[Sarah]

Has anyone written their speech yet?

Yes but I may edit mine.
@Sarah - I don't mind if you swear if that's what you were getting at, I just try to avoid swearing myself I'm in the habit and trying to cut it

I meant me using the lord's name in vain (joking)

[Kim J]

Prove it. Find something I've said that was good about Gabe, and then the same thing was bad about Lindsey.

You actively just said that you no longer want to "prove" anything to us, and let Gabe do it at FTC

Firstly, that's not even a response to what I said. That's a shit attempt at taking anything I said and making it vaguely hypocritical. Which it's not because:

Secondly, I didn't say I don't want anyone to prove anything, I said none of us should make a concrete decision until then and I asked you all to at least let them all explain, I will be doing the same.

Get off your high horse Patty. I'll agree that me saying Gabe isn't a good competitor is completely an assumption, but to be honest, someone who doesn't talk to half of the jury ISN'T a good competitor.

Don't act like your some intelligent person trying to deduce me having a personal vendetta against you. Earlier I said that the only person I have any angst for is Lex and Linda (but Linda isn't here). I did my part and admitted to jumping the gun, but you don't need to act like your something special either.

[Sarah]

Lol its hard to imagine Clarence as a girl. Gave certainly acted feminine at some points too.

Is Gave a joke or do you not realize you're doing it? The impression I got was Gabe is a gay guy.

[Patricia]

I asked you a question and you came up with a crap answer. I don't think I'm special, I just think you're not particularly good at arguing.

[Lex]

Lol its hard to imagine Clarence as a girl. Gave certainly acted feminine at some points too.

Lindsey acted very feminine throughout the game from my perspective. o_o

Also I agree with Pat's long quote message a page ago, my vote isn't locked yet despite what it may seem it all depends on FTC

[Kim J]

I spent more time in the game with Gabe than anyone else on this jury and I feel like I know less about him than I know about people I knew for a quarter of the time, like Kim P or Clarence. To me, that speaks volumes. Gabe was a milquetoast player in this game and I'm shocked that this isn't going to be a blowout in Lindsey's favor.

Look at Lindsey's record- she won critical immunity challenges- when she needed them for her own survival (this last challenge) or to prevent her boot target from winning them (Sean boot). She had an incredible social game and was routinely the most pleasant and positive person to interact with. Every power play in the endgame was instigated by her. Who cares if she was on the wrong side of the numbers for ONE boot (Kim P) in the early merge. Look at how she developed. She ran that endgame like a well-oiled machine. It's a shame that other late-gamers like Lex can't see it. If you think Gabe of all people was the one instigating taking out power players like Sean or Lex or even Patty, you're horribly misinformed.

Thank you Gina for coming to the rescue. They wont listen to Mrs. First Juror like me, but they'll hopefully listen to you.

[Kim P]

Am I going to hell Lex?

[Sarah]

Lol its hard to imagine Clarence as a girl. Gave certainly acted feminine at some points too.

Lindsey acted very feminine throughout the game from my perspective. o_o

Also I agree with Pat's long quote message a page ago, my vote isn't locked yet despite what it may seem it all depends on FTC

yeah but a lot of Reality TV fans are gay so that could be why. Personally I don't identify as gay but I am androgynous.

[Vecepia]

No its auto correct. I've done it like 12 times today.

[Kim J]

I asked you a question and you came up with a crap answer. I don't think I'm special, I just think you're not particularly good at arguing.

I can't argue with someone who doesn't try to argue back.

A LONG time ago I've said that Gabe ignored half this jury. I've mentioned it several times to try to get someone to beat me on the point. All I've heard instead is "How much of a mastermind Gabe is".

I'm still looking to be proven wrong.

[Kim J]

Am I going to hell Lex?

I'm against Lex a lot, but c'mon guys, lets not bring religion into this. We're debating the winner, not sunday politics.

[Lex]

In the end all this vote comes down to is everybody voting for the people they were allied with =/ which isn't a very good way to do the vote

[Sarah]

I asked you a question and you came up with a crap answer. I don't think I'm special, I just think you're not particularly good at arguing.

I can't argue with someone who doesn't try to argue back.

A LONG time ago I've said that Gabe ignored half this jury. I've mentioned it several times to try to get someone to beat me on the point. All I've heard instead is "How much of a mastermind Gabe is".

I'm still looking to be proven wrong.

I can attest to that.