Winner Discussion Thread

[Kim J]

I'm making accusations based on proof Patty. Gabe ignored half of this jury. Why should that be rewarded?

But you have no proof. You have one round where one guy ignored you because you were going. Oh no. I'm not saying you have to vote Gabe, I'm reasonably sure you're not going to, but your incessant proclamations that he's awful and played a horrible game based on that one round of information I find incredibly stupid. Especially when you've been given accounts from 8 other people since, both for and against your own argument.

Don't reward Gabe ignoring half the jury. give him shit for it. But you should also praise him for all the good he did, and you should also take an equal look at Lindsey and ask "Why should I reward someone who for all intents and purposes had no impact on the votes of the game"

Linda has had more overall sway than Lindsey in terms of votes. Lindsey has been on a single track with her alliance post-merge of Gina/Sarah/Kimp/Gabe and I. Even when Gabe and I betrayed her, she still let Gabe continue to take out her allies one by one.

I do have proof. I have 4/9 people agreeing that Gabe actively ignored them. Gina even stated that Lindsey played the better game, although she didn't say Gabe ignored her.

Sure, ignore everthing else I said. me saying "You have no proof" was in regard to you saying he's awful and played a horrible"

Do you have any valid points for everything else I said or are you going to stick to your "Gabe Ignored People" argument? I mean, I understand if that's literally the only validpoint you have that's anti-Gabe. but still.

Thats really the only base I have to vote tonight, considering I left at 12th, but it's not an unfair one either.

I hope you guys know I have no angst against you guys for voting me out except for Lex. I hope I was chosen because I was a threat ;)

[Patricia]

I completely understand that you have a limited scope for what to base your vote on, I'm pretty much just asking you to stop proclaiming that Gabe was the be all end all goat of suck because by all accounts it's not true.

[Kim J]

I completely understand that you have a limited scope for what to base your vote on, I'm pretty much just asking you to stop proclaiming that Gabe was the be all end all goat of suck because by all accounts it's not true.

Alright fair.

Even if Gabe played a killer game, it's unexcusable to ignore half of the jury. It's pretty much asking for second (or 3rd).

[Sarah]

Let's all just stop pretending that anyone in this game was better than me. I'm Cleo-fucking-patra for Christ's (sorry Lex) sake!

[Kim P]

Has anyone written their speech yet?

[Patricia]

Some other thoughts:

Lex, I know that we both really want Gabe to win, but asking people isn't going to do it. It's clear some people have made their minds up, and it's up to the F3 to convince them otherwise at this point. This all being said, The best thing we can do is just provide clear arguments and valid points as to why Gabe deserves to win.

Sarah, You can't be "I'm a bitch and proud" and then expect people not to take everything you say as malicious and bitchy.

Kim J, all I can ask is that you at least look at the points made about Gabe and consider the fact that there is a reason that they're being made. Vote how you like, but at least try and be open minded considering you were an early juror.

Kim P, If you had been this talkative in the game, you would'nt have been blindsided. In all likelihood it would've been Lindsey instead.

Many of you aren't arguing, you've just decided that Lindsey's better and you're disagreeing with whatever anyone says to the contrary. You talk about manipulating being awesome when you're praising Lindsey, but when Lex brings up not voting for Lindsey's because she's a villain you're like "But Gabe manipulated even MORE allies". And yet you still won't admit that Gabe played a more manipulative game because it doesn't fit your view of Lindsey.

There's been so much hypocrisy over the last few pages and I just want you all to look back and notice how you change your stance on everything to fit who you want to win.

Just take a look at the F3 when we get there Sunday and really drink in everything they say and do.



Re Kimp" I've written my questions.

[Kim J]

[quote="Patricia"]
Many of you aren't arguing, you've just decided that Lindsey's better and you're disagreeing with whatever anyone says to the contrary. You talk about manipulating being awesome when you're praising Lindsey, but when Lex brings up not voting for Lindsey's because she's a villain you're like "But Gabe manipulated even MORE allies". And yet you still won't admit that Gabe played a more manipulative game because it doesn't fit your view of Lindsey./quote]
The same exact thing could be said about you two and Gabe

[Sarah]

First of all, I don't think i said I was a bitch. If I did, then I made a mistake. I come across as bitchy but I don't MEAN to be.

[Patricia]

Prove it. Find something I've said that was good about Gabe, and then the same thing was bad about Lindsey.

[Kim P]

First of all, I don't think i said I was a bitch. If I did, then I made a mistake. I come across as bitchy but I don't MEAN to be.

Who cares if Sarah's bitchy? I certainly don't.

[Kim J]

Prove it. Find something I've said that was good about Gabe, and then the same thing was bad about Lindsey.

You actively just said that you no longer want to "prove" anything to us, and let Gabe do it at FTC

[Patricia]

First of all, I don't think i said I was a bitch. If I did, then I made a mistake. I come across as bitchy but I don't MEAN to be.

"I respect you Lex. I don't mean to be rude but I'm not the type of person who just hides away their every thought and feeling that may be considered undesirable. If I think something, I'm going to say it. This isn't meant to attack you or defend myself against being called a bitch.I am a bitch. That doesn't bother me. I'm proud to be a person of questionable morals. I'm trying to explain that I don't TRY to be a bitch or piss people off. It's not a facade with me. I'm a very bold person."

[Kim P]

First of all, I don't think i said I was a bitch. If I did, then I made a mistake. I come across as bitchy but I don't MEAN to be.

[Patricia]

Prove it. Find something I've said that was good about Gabe, and then the same thing was bad about Lindsey.

You actively just said that you no longer want to "prove" anything to us, and let Gabe do it at FTC

Firstly, that's not even a response to what I said. That's a shit attempt at taking anything I said and making it vaguely hypocritical. Which it's not because:

Secondly, I didn't say I don't want anyone to prove anything, I said none of us should make a concrete decision until then and I asked you all to at least let them all explain, I will be doing the same.

[Patricia]

First of all, I don't think i said I was a bitch. If I did, then I made a mistake. I come across as bitchy but I don't MEAN to be.

Yeah, I realise that, I'm just showing her where she said it.

[Sarah]

Which was referring to how I'm perceived. Not how I perceive myself.


"I'm proud to be a person of questionable morals." By the way that's within the context of this game.

[Lex]

Frank, can ya just wait until Monday to yell at Lex? What if the finalists see that and treat the responses differently?

Lol Frank is not half as smart as he thinks he is, Linda and I already talked about that, it's not my fault I entered the game late and I knew you were going to vote me that night Frank, and I'm sure you must have thought I would vote you too.
Linda, I and Kim J are not puppets.

Also I can't tell if you are serious or not Sarah (I'm on a mobile so I can't quote it) but I'll start calling you she until the end of the game then :p

[Sarah]

Which was referring to how I'm perceived. Not how I perceive myself.


"I'm proud to be a person of questionable morals." By the way that's within the context of this game.

Actually, I'm really sorry fr this. I shouldn't be defending myself because I know I'm wrong about that not being how I perceive myself. The second part is true.

[Kim P]

Is anyone here actually female?

[Vecepia]

You guys all act bitchy so its hard to tell sometimes. I feel like Linda is female or just a really emotional guy??