Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Clarence » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:13:21 am

Gabriel wrote:
You were one of my biggest allies in this game from Day 1 besides Sean.


Was I really? That's actually quite surprising since our conversations didn't go really far or in depth too much. I do respect that you had that loyal to me. As I might've said in my opening statement, I saw you as the body of the snake, with Sean as the head. I didn't know that you had such loyalty to me or else I might've considered doing something different.


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Linda » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:14:08 am

Vecepia wrote:oh and by lesser of the three, I don't mean goat or anything. I just mean that I felt that Gabe and Lindsey just played a little better than you.


Also, thank you Vecepia. After Kimmy's....harsh words, that means a lot.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:15:24 am

Lindsey will have to just play catch up.

Thank you Vecepia.

Next up: Sarah!
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:15:45 am

Bow to the Queen, bitches!
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The Fabulous Queen Cleopatra is back to name a winner and y'all better bow to the queen. This game ism't about any of you at this point, it's about me! You guys did okay but I mean I think we all know I should have been there. I don't care about none of you! XOXO. Alright! Let's move onto you guys, shall we?


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I feel like you and I connected at one point going into the merge but then it just kind of stopped when I got in with Sean and you guys. I never saw you making plans or adding suggestions to them. What moves did you make in this game and how exactly did you make it to the end over people like Patricia and Sean? Were you and I ever really friends or was that all game? Why do you think you deserve to win over people like Gabriel and Lindsey? You probably have the best chance of getting my vote.

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We were tight for a while but then you betrayed me and I'll admit, I',m feeling a little bitter about that. What exactly have you done to get here and what do you think your smartest moves were? What would you say to the people who are apprehensive towards voting for you because they feel you lied and manipulated them? What do you fell were the weakest points of your opponents games and why are you not guilty of the points you make? Give me a run down of the alliances you made and how everyone fit into those alliances.

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I have nothing for you. All I want to know is what you think were the dumbest moves you made in the game and how you came back from them? Do you feel like any mistakes you made in the game will hurt you at the final vote? What would be your ideal bootlist for this entire game and why? Do you think you playing a prior online games is at all relevant to your answers? Why didn't you take the risk of getting to know the people you were voting out? Didn't you think that would hurt you at the end?
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:17:31 am

Keep your answers short and brief so you can see my questions, I'll be asking random extra questions through out.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Lex » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:18:41 am

Sarah wrote:Keep your answers short and brief so you can see my questions, I'll be asking random extra questions through out.



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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Lindsey » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:22:55 am

Vecepia wrote:To Lindsey: I haven't talked to you much so I don't know much about how you got here. What was your biggest risk you took in this game? Also, tell me 1 flaw in your 2 opponents and 1 thing you did better than them. You are probably the biggest mystery for me in this vote.
Convince me that you're not just here because Sean, Pat, Lex and Gina were bigger threats than you. I feel like you were kinda disposable from f11-f9. You certainly are the luckiest one of the final three, no offense. If things didn't change at F9 like you said I can't imagine you being here. One final thing, I always felt like you were out of the loop during the early merge. At the end of TC you always seemed to have a WTF reaction. Explain why you are worthy of my vote when you were lost strategically in the early merge.


Yeah, I have to say my biggest regret socially in the game is not taking more time to get to know you. I think most of it was because we were on opposite sides, and I said this to Sean, but I didn't want to approach either of you after trying to blindside Sean at f11 right away because I thought it would come off as not being genuine and would lose me more favor than I would gain.

The biggest risk I took in this game was attempting to blindside Sean at the final 11. I know that probably isn't something you might look at as a massive positive since Sean ended up lasting until 6th place, but as I outlined in my opening statement, I think it was a victory nonetheless as it flushed an idol and I voted in the majority anyway.

Gabriel's flaw is his social game. Some jurors have already made it clear that they're peeved that he didn't put in more effort with them personally. Linda's flaw is that she sort of let things happen to her. She voted in the majority most of the time, but I believe after her meltdown a lot of people began to lose trust in her because she was viewed as someone who could be unpredictable or unreliable. From then on, no one really thought about eliminating her due to her being perceived as a bit of a goat. As such, she didn't have to fight as much as I did.

The thing I did better than both of them was that I was more cool-headed. Even when Linda was freaking out during the F11 TC, I kept my composure and didn't lose it. Linda not being good at this is self-explanatory. Gabriel lost his cool with Sarah at her boot Tribal Council IIRC. By being cool-headed, I think I came across as being more composed and this earned me a lot of brownie points as people were easier to trust me later on.

I'm not here because there were bigger fish to fry. I may be the luckiest one here (a notion I don't disagree with but I do think I shouldn't have held against me - luck is a crucial part of any Survivor season) but I didn't let the game happen to me. After Kim P left, I made a deal with Sean to watch out for each other because I wasn't content being a sitting duck - and if Pat/Gabe lied that round again, I needed a back-up plan. I was always thinking ahead and planning ahead, and never gave up when things weren't going my way.

I don't think I was as out of the loop as you think in the early merge. As evidenced by my opening statement, I knew exactly what was going on in the merge round and used my understanding of the game to my advantage. The final 11 vote... I don't think anyone can say they knew exactly how that would pan out because of that trainwreck Tribal Council. But still, I did vote with the (vast) majority that round. The final 10 vote was the only time I was truly blindsided. And the final 9... I don't think that was luck. I'm sure part of it is due to their own perception of the game, but I never let Patricia and Gabriel forget that if we screwed up that round and the NuTamanaco alliance got the numbers, we were pretty much fucked. Plus, I had a relationship with them that warranted them not voting me out. Like I said, even when I was vulnerable, I always had back-up plans.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Gabriel » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:22:55 am

I have nothing for you. All I want to know is what you think were the dumbest moves you made in the game and how you came back from them? Do you feel like any mistakes you made in the game will hurt you at the final vote? What would be your ideal bootlist for this entire game and why? Do you think you playing a prior online games is at all relevant to your answers? Why didn't you take the risk of getting to know the people you were voting out? Didn't you think that would hurt you at the end?


Is that why I have 5 questions after that?

Anyway, alright. The dumbest moves I made in the game were, I guess now, looking at who might just win this game, is keeping Lindsey in. I had no idea she was seen as such a good social player or anything like that. I guess another "move" that was dumb was not being social the way that you guys wanted me to be. I came back from them by making the final 3, and the very social jury didn't.

I'm not doing the bootlist because I got exactly who I wanted in the final 3 there, and everyone else is who I wanted out.

Linda and Lindsey both play online games, too. Considering I've only ever made finals one other time, I don't think it's relevant to my answers, but I do know it was relevant to my gameplay, just as it was to Lindsey and Linda's.

Why didn't I take that risk? Because I was afraid it would hurt me by getting me voted out. If I played with my heart on my sleeve, I could just as easily be one of the 9 members of the jury and someone else could be in my spot. I didn't think it would hurt me because I figured that you guys would be understanding of it. On the real show of Survivor, the winners don't always have an amazing connection with each jury member, but they still get the win. Why can't I? I played smart.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Linda » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:23:22 am

Alright, I will take these one at a time Cleopatra!

1. The Frank move I continue to own, and it probably feels like beating a dead horse at this point. But that is one and the most important, leading to the 4 person alliance that defined my mid to late game. Those 3 were loyal to me, which is more than can be said for a lot of allies to people in this game. I also helped push for the Patricia/your vote, though that seemed as a group effort. I also gave plenty of suggestions that would have made for a smoother game had they been listened to. Like I said, I wanted the 4 people to vote out Gina as a surprise vote, because I didn't trust Patty/Gabe, but the majority ended up not going for. Gina was slated to go home before Lex, which was my idea, before a last minute change of mind from Lindsey and a poor random.org choice roll by Gabe ended up Lex first.

2. I considered you a friend. We bonded after the crazy Clarence vote and that was genuine. At that point, things were well and I was going to be with you....but then you brought up Lex as a target, and then we ended up on opposite sides, except for the Vecepia vote off where you voted with us. But on a personal level I considered you a friend, but you were a threat to win with your underdog story.

3. I think I was the most adaptable of the finalists, yet not to the point of being stupid, and I think that after the F11 vote, I had the hardest path to the final of the 3 of us

Thank you for your kind words <3
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Patricia » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:23:36 am

Sarah wrote: I don't care about none of you!


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:25:06 am

Because it's a fucking social game.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:26:29 am

Gabriel, why do you think a social game should be overlooked when the strategic game behind it, in my opinion, was just as poor?
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Gabriel » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:26:40 am

Outwit, outplay, outlast. Not outsocialize.

I was social enough to get me here, was I not? I think I was. I'm sorry that you have such a vendetta against me, Jury. And I'm sorry that you guys don't respect the game that I've played, but I sure as hell do and there's no way I'd be here if I'd played as socially as you guys wanted me to be.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Gina » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:27:00 am

Sarah wrote:Because it's a fucking social game.

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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Lex » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:27:02 am

Sarah wrote:
The Fabulous Queen Cleopatra is back to name a winner and y'all better bow to the queen. This game ism't about any of you at this point, it's about me! You guys did okay but I mean I think we all know I should have been there. I don't care about none of you! XOXO. Alright! Let's move onto you guys, shall we?



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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:27:45 am

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Sarah wrote:
The Fabulous Queen Cleopatra is back to name a winner and y'all better bow to the queen. This game ism't about any of you at this point, it's about me! You guys did okay but I mean I think we all know I should have been there. I don't care about none of you! XOXO. Alright! Let's move onto you guys, shall we?



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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Linda » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:28:06 am

I think Gabe's apprehension to a social game is very much in contradiction to basic Survivor principle. When you look at Survivor winners, you can win with a social game but no strategic game, but very rarely does anyone win with a fantastic strategic game but no social game.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sean » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:28:11 am

Sarah wrote:Because it's a fucking social game.


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Gabriel » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:28:17 am

Sarah wrote:Gabriel, why do you think a social game should be overlooked when the strategic game behind it, in my opinion, was just as poor?


So I had a poor strategic game as well? And a poor social game? Do you have the right to say that after getting unanimously voted out after being someone that continually made people like you less and less? My strategic game was not poor.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:28:26 am

Gabriel wrote:Outwit, outplay, outlast. Not outsocialize.

I was social enough to get me here, was I not? I think I was. I'm sorry that you have such a vendetta against me, Jury. And I'm sorry that you guys don't respect the game that I've played, but I sure as hell do and there's no way I'd be here if I'd played as socially as you guys wanted me to be.

The point is you ignored most of us while the other too at least spoke to us.
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