Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Lex » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:28:27 am

Linda wrote: Gina was slated to go home before Lex, which was my idea, before a last minute change of mind from Lindsey and a poor random.org choice roll by Gabe ended up Lex first.


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:29:07 am

I'm done here.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Linda » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30:02 am

Lex wrote:
Linda wrote: Gina was slated to go home before Lex, which was my idea, before a last minute change of mind from Lindsey and a poor random.org choice roll by Gabe ended up Lex first.


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Gina » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30:11 am

Lex wrote:
Linda wrote: Gina was slated to go home before Lex, which was my idea, before a last minute change of mind from Lindsey and a poor random.org choice roll by Gabe ended up Lex first.


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Gabriel » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30:12 am

I didn't ignore you guys.

It's a two way street. None of you guys really made any effort to talk to me, either. But just because I'm suddenly up here, I can be attacked on it?

I'm really feeling belittled because I'm proud of the game I've played, and you guys aren't opening your eyes to see that it was a good game. Better than the other two people here.

I don't know what else I can say other than why I didn't get as close to people as I did. Lindsey and Linda did and they nearly got ruined for it.

Ugh.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sarah » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30:37 am

Sarah wrote:
Gabriel wrote:Outwit, outplay, outlast. Not outsocialize.

I was social enough to get me here, was I not? I think I was. I'm sorry that you have such a vendetta against me, Jury. And I'm sorry that you guys don't respect the game that I've played, but I sure as hell do and there's no way I'd be here if I'd played as socially as you guys wanted me to be.

The point is you ignored most of us while the other too at least spoke to us.

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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30:58 am

Alright Thank you Queen Cleopatra <3

Next up, We have Fatricia!
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Lex » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:31:13 am

Sarah wrote:
Gabriel wrote:Outwit, outplay, outlast. Not outsocialize.

I was social enough to get me here, was I not? I think I was. I'm sorry that you have such a vendetta against me, Jury. And I'm sorry that you guys don't respect the game that I've played, but I sure as hell do and there's no way I'd be here if I'd played as socially as you guys wanted me to be.

The point is you ignored most of us while the other too at least spoke to us.


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Linda » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:31:35 am

Gabriel wrote:
It's a two way street. None of you guys really made any effort to talk to me, either. But just because I'm suddenly up here, I can be attacked on it?

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That is how it works. I mean Kim "I answer people with 2 sentences" Powers got away with calling someone a goat, no?
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:31:48 am

Lex, wait your turn.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sean » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:31:56 am

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Sarah wrote:
Gabriel wrote:Outwit, outplay, outlast. Not outsocialize.

I was social enough to get me here, was I not? I think I was. I'm sorry that you have such a vendetta against me, Jury. And I'm sorry that you guys don't respect the game that I've played, but I sure as hell do and there's no way I'd be here if I'd played as socially as you guys wanted me to be.

The point is you ignored most of us while the other too at least spoke to us.


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Patricia » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:32:00 am

Congrats on making F3. I would've been happy with any combination of the final 7 making F3 tbh because we did bring the best to the end, but congrats to you three for navigating that. It's a huge accomplishment.

I came into this with an inclination to vote a certain way but some of your answers tonight have given me reason to waver And the questions I'm asking are the questions that would, if anything, get me to change my vote so give it a good honest go. I'm not looking for particular answers so truth it up.

Lindsey:
1. Can you give me your perception of me and my threat level at different points of the game? Like, since we met at NuMariche, give me a round by round analysis of what you thought about me, how big of a threat you thought I was, and if at any point you genuinely considered taking me to the end.

2. Were our casual talks fun? Or were they just social game?

3. Do you think that you had as much, or more control in this game than Gabe?

4. Compare each member of the jury to a Gym Leader from the pokemon games. Give reasoning.

Gabe:

1. At what point in the game did you really decide you weren't going to F3 with me. At what point did I become too threatening to your game personally?

2. List the members of the jury from easiest to talk to, to most difficult to talk to. Give reasoning.

3. Was your constant wondering about whether or not people respected your game an act to make you seem less threatening?

4. Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUvH7cGiNl8
Of Linda and Lindsey. Which is Ninja Bryan, which is Danny Sexbang.
(optional: assign a "Ninja Bryan" or a "Danny Sexbang" to each member of the jury)

Linda:

1. Give me the entire thought process of your Final 3 deal with Gabe and I. I want as many details about it as possible, why you made it, was it simply to placate me, did you and Gabe talk about it behind my back?

2. Name an aspect of the game that you excelled at beyond that of Gabe or Lindsey.

3. Count to 50 without making mistakes :P

3 (actual). Compare each member of the jury to someone from Game Of Thrones (Tv Show only, try to give reasons but for the sake of those that haven't seen, put spoiler warnings on anything)


A question for all three of you

Compare our relationship in this game to a relationship in Survivor.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Lex » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:32:02 am

Gabriel wrote:I didn't ignore you guys.

It's a two way street. None of you guys really made any effort to talk to me, either. But just because I'm suddenly up here, I can be attacked on it?

I'm really feeling belittled because I'm proud of the game I've played, and you guys aren't opening your eyes to see that it was a good game. Better than the other two people here.

I don't know what else I can say other than why I didn't get as close to people as I did. Lindsey and Linda did and they nearly got ruined for it.

Ugh.


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Kim J » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:32:23 am

Gabriel wrote:It's a two way street. None of you guys really made any effort to talk to me, either.

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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Lex » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:32:45 am

Kim J wrote:
Gabriel wrote:It's a two way street. None of you guys really made any effort to talk to me, either.

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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Clarence » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:35:09 am

Linda wrote:3. I think I was the most adaptable of the finalists, yet not to the point of being stupid, and I think that after the F11 vote, I had the hardest path to the final of the 3 of us

Thank you for your kind words <3


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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Patricia » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:35:16 am

I can hear you guys making faces back there. Stop it.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Lindsey » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:36:30 am

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We were tight for a while but then you betrayed me and I'll admit, I',m feeling a little bitter about that. What exactly have you done to get here and what do you think your smartest moves were? What would you say to the people who are apprehensive towards voting for you because they feel you lied and manipulated them? What do you fell were the weakest points of your opponents games and why are you not guilty of the points you make? Give me a run down of the alliances you made and how everyone fit into those alliances.


I have already defended myself about this and while it did suck that our alliance didn't work out, I feel as though I did what I had to do since you had written me name down during the previous TC and you were a bit of a wild card.

I think I had the best social game of the three of us sitting here. As I detailed in my answer to Mama Kim, my strategy was to gradually build up my relationships with people so that they would trust me and relay information to me that I could use to get my way. The first two-thirds or so of the game, I'm not going to beat around the bush: I was NOT the one calling the shots. But I was always there. I was always talking to people, always keeping up with what was going on and keeping my cool. And then after Vecepia left, I truly believe I was in a position of power for that last stretch of the game, where my biggest moves occurred... I went the extra mile and secured myself a spot in the final 3 by thinking ahead at the final 5, I used the trust I had been building with people during the first part of the game to get the people out that I wanted to get out. My smartest moves were the little things like the stray vote at the merge or as I already said, going the extra mile at final 5. I was always looking to just elevate my position in any way possible. You can say a lot of things about how I played, but you can't say I was lazy.

To the people that are apprehensive about voting me due to manipulation... I hope you don't think that makes me love you guys that I voted out any less. Because that was not the case at all. I was good at keeping my emotions out of who I voted out, and I think if I wasn't you would be seeing a completely different final 3 here. As much as I did grow to befriend people here, my manipulation was all part of the game and doesn't portray accurately how I feel about you as people. My lies told were all a part of the game.

WEAK POINTS:
Linda's emotion - I never let my emotions make decisions for me or really ever influence my decisions. I did feel awful after voting Gina, but I didn't hesitate doing so at all because it was what was best for my game and I knew that.
Gabriel's UTRness - I was always on the radar and always bustling around, talking to people and trying to make moves. Gabe hid behind Patricia for a lot of the game. I didn't hide behind anyone and when people called me out on bullshit or lies (like Linda at the F11 TC) I owned it.
Gabriel's social game - Even though my relationships with Clarence and Vecepia were weaker than the other relationships that I forged in this game, I feel as though I made a conscious effort to communicate with nearly everyone at most points in the game.
Linda's go with the flow - Linda was someone who people viewed as a sort of "easy opponent" at FTC and as such, she didn't have to fight as much for her position as I did. Linda could just kinda go with the flow on most votes. I didn't have that option and was always active and trying new things.

ALLIANCES:
I'm only counting bigger alliances that weren't just one on one deals, but group communication.

Original Tamanaco 5 - I think I had a secure position in this. Beyond the original five, Linda/Kim P/myself had a final 3 deal from the start. This alliance ended up being irrelevant. Frank was sort of the de facto leader. This was a very even alliance in terms of contributions.

NuMariche 4 - The group of myself/Gabe/Pat/Gina formed around the swap. We didn't communicate as a group often until around the final 10 or 11 but we always were thinking about things the other three of those people wanted to do. Once again, this was sort of even in terms of contributions. If anything, Patricia was the chattiest and the glue of the group while there were 2 pairs within of Gabe/Pat and Gina/myself.

Outsider 3 - This was a group that Sarah formed with Kim P and myself following the Clarence vote. The dynamics ended up not really being clear because Kim P left later that round.

Final 3 - The final 3 deal that Gabe made with myself and Linda. I think this was also sort of even in terms of communication, but Gabe initiated most discussions.
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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Sean » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:37:20 am

Patricia wrote:Congrats on making F3. I would've been happy with any combination of the final 7 making F3 tbh because we did bring the best to the end, but congrats to you three for navigating that. It's a huge accomplishment.

I came into this with an inclination to vote a certain way but some of your answers tonight have given me reason to waver And the questions I'm asking are the questions that would, if anything, get me to change my vote so give it a good honest go. I'm not looking for particular answers so truth it up.

Lindsey:
1. Can you give me your perception of me and my threat level at different points of the game? Like, since we met at NuMariche, give me a round by round analysis of what you thought about me, how big of a threat you thought I was, and if at any point you genuinely considered taking me to the end.

2. Were our casual talks fun? Or were they just social game?

3. Do you think that you had as much, or more control in this game than Gabe?

4. Compare each member of the jury to a Gym Leader from the pokemon games. Give reasoning.

Gabe:

1. At what point in the game did you really decide you weren't going to F3 with me. At what point did I become too threatening to your game personally?

2. List the members of the jury from easiest to talk to, to most difficult to talk to. Give reasoning.

3. Was your constant wondering about whether or not people respected your game an act to make you seem less threatening?

4. Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUvH7cGiNl8
Of Linda and Lindsey. Which is Ninja Bryan, which is Danny Sexbang.
(optional: assign a "Ninja Bryan" or a "Danny Sexbang" to each member of the jury)

Linda:

1. Give me the entire thought process of your Final 3 deal with Gabe and I. I want as many details about it as possible, why you made it, was it simply to placate me, did you and Gabe talk about it behind my back?

2. Name an aspect of the game that you excelled at beyond that of Gabe or Lindsey.

3. Count to 50 without making mistakes :P

3 (actual). Compare each member of the jury to someone from Game Of Thrones (Tv Show only, try to give reasons but for the sake of those that haven't seen, put spoiler warnings on anything)


A question for all three of you

Compare our relationship in this game to a relationship in Survivor.





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Re: Day 32 - Final Tribal Council

Postby Kim J » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:37:45 am

Lex wrote:
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Gabriel wrote:It's a two way street. None of you guys really made any effort to talk to me, either.

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